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		<title>By: Sarah E. Ludwig</title>
		<link>http://www.parentingbytrialanderror.com/2009/08/20/bumpaholics-anyone/comment-page-1/#comment-1220</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah E. Ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, you really brought back the memories for me with the tissue story! All my kids did that with tissues. It was SO frustrating!

At that age, they also loved to rip up magazines, so I&#039;d give them one or two to tear apart. The fun they had and the time it kept them entertained was well worth the clean-up. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, you really brought back the memories for me with the tissue story! All my kids did that with tissues. It was SO frustrating!</p>
<p>At that age, they also loved to rip up magazines, so I&#8217;d give them one or two to tear apart. The fun they had and the time it kept them entertained was well worth the clean-up. =)</p>
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		<title>By: Ron S. Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron S. Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All those years as a high school teacher made me good at delegating authority---keeping other people on task is much easier than keeping myself on task, I think.

Of course, I also found Lila surrounded by a giant mound of a tissues, amazed by the magic of the box... pull one out and POOF! Another appears!  Pull one out, another one appears!  It took two minutes to annihilate a whole box of Kleenex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All those years as a high school teacher made me good at delegating authority&#8212;keeping other people on task is much easier than keeping myself on task, I think.</p>
<p>Of course, I also found Lila surrounded by a giant mound of a tissues, amazed by the magic of the box&#8230; pull one out and POOF! Another appears!  Pull one out, another one appears!  It took two minutes to annihilate a whole box of Kleenex.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah E. Ludwig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah E. Ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christina, other than the crazy messes more children make, I think in some ways it&#039;s not that different to have 2 or 4. They all play with each other anyway.

However, I do think there are plenty of people who just aren&#039;t cut out to have a bunch and that&#039;s totally fine. We&#039;re all so different. It is a lot of work, a lot of money (even though I&#039;ve figured out great ways to save dollars) and a LOT of noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christina, other than the crazy messes more children make, I think in some ways it&#8217;s not that different to have 2 or 4. They all play with each other anyway.</p>
<p>However, I do think there are plenty of people who just aren&#8217;t cut out to have a bunch and that&#8217;s totally fine. We&#8217;re all so different. It is a lot of work, a lot of money (even though I&#8217;ve figured out great ways to save dollars) and a LOT of noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah E. Ludwig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah E. Ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO right, Ron. Having any children at all IS crazy. Having a bunch of them is insane. I often, too, feel like I am going to go completely mad, especially when I emerge from my office and see the tornado-like aftermath my children have turned my house into.

But Jenny is right too. Having more kids does not mean more help cleaning up, necessarily. It does, however, mean more mess. Perhaps it balances itself out if everyone picks up their mess, but keeping on top of that can be a nightmare too. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO right, Ron. Having any children at all IS crazy. Having a bunch of them is insane. I often, too, feel like I am going to go completely mad, especially when I emerge from my office and see the tornado-like aftermath my children have turned my house into.</p>
<p>But Jenny is right too. Having more kids does not mean more help cleaning up, necessarily. It does, however, mean more mess. Perhaps it balances itself out if everyone picks up their mess, but keeping on top of that can be a nightmare too. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron S. Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron S. Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer: I guess I am pretty lucky---my two year old thinks mopping, sweeping and &quot;clean up&quot; time is great fun. Of course, my one year old thinks throwing oatmeal is fun, too, so I see what you mean... ;-)

Christina: I definitely think the daycare issue needs to be addressed.  For what it&#039;s worth, you should feel lucky---we pay over $450/month for our oldest daughter to go to daycare only TWO days per week.  And don&#039;t get me started on the horrors of her two previous daycare experiences (which weren&#039;t much cheaper).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer: I guess I am pretty lucky&#8212;my two year old thinks mopping, sweeping and &#8220;clean up&#8221; time is great fun. Of course, my one year old thinks throwing oatmeal is fun, too, so I see what you mean&#8230; <img src='http://www.parentingbytrialanderror.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Christina: I definitely think the daycare issue needs to be addressed.  For what it&#8217;s worth, you should feel lucky&#8212;we pay over $450/month for our oldest daughter to go to daycare only TWO days per week.  And don&#8217;t get me started on the horrors of her two previous daycare experiences (which weren&#8217;t much cheaper).</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Fink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Fink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, Ron...not to burst your bubble, but my 2 extra kids are not exactly more help cleaning up.  They are, however, excellent at making messes.

OK, that&#039;s not entirely true.  My older kids do help pick up toys, unload the dishwasher, put away their dishes, help with the lawn, etc.  Somehow, though, my house is still a mess!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, Ron&#8230;not to burst your bubble, but my 2 extra kids are not exactly more help cleaning up.  They are, however, excellent at making messes.</p>
<p>OK, that&#8217;s not entirely true.  My older kids do help pick up toys, unload the dishwasher, put away their dishes, help with the lawn, etc.  Somehow, though, my house is still a mess!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron S. Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron S. Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can’t imagine that the attempt by Women’s Health to capitalize on the Octo-Mom backlash will be well received.

Does this mean that the publication is implying that folks who do not use contraception for cultural or religious reasons are intellectually or socially disturbed?

And besides, having any children at all is crazy. I only have the socially accepted quota (two girls) and I feel totally psychotic and my house is a mess. At least if I had more kids I would have some more help cleaning up…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can’t imagine that the attempt by Women’s Health to capitalize on the Octo-Mom backlash will be well received.</p>
<p>Does this mean that the publication is implying that folks who do not use contraception for cultural or religious reasons are intellectually or socially disturbed?</p>
<p>And besides, having any children at all is crazy. I only have the socially accepted quota (two girls) and I feel totally psychotic and my house is a mess. At least if I had more kids I would have some more help cleaning up…</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on point with this topic, I wish I could have a big family!  I always wanted 6 kids.  But my 2 are all I can handle!  I don&#039;t have the temprament I know is required to have a lot of kids.  I&#039;ve always loved the efficiency that comes with big families.  The children learn self reliance and how to work with people.  I don&#039;t see many draw backs to the big families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on point with this topic, I wish I could have a big family!  I always wanted 6 kids.  But my 2 are all I can handle!  I don&#8217;t have the temprament I know is required to have a lot of kids.  I&#8217;ve always loved the efficiency that comes with big families.  The children learn self reliance and how to work with people.  I don&#8217;t see many draw backs to the big families.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re probably going to cover this more in the next post, but one expense that you don&#039;t have for your kids that a lot of parent do is daycare.  Where I live you can&#039;t find infant/toddler care for less than $120 a week and full time daycare/preschool is around $100.  During the summer when I pay full time care for 2 kids I pay $900 in daycare cost ALONE.
I work school hours so during the school year I only pay for the younger one to be at daycare, but even that is $480 for just 1 child to be in care while I work.  That goes a long way toward your figure of $950/month.
I wish I didn&#039;t have to work, but my job provides the health insurance and my hubby&#039;s wont cover dependants.  So there really isnt a choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re probably going to cover this more in the next post, but one expense that you don&#8217;t have for your kids that a lot of parent do is daycare.  Where I live you can&#8217;t find infant/toddler care for less than $120 a week and full time daycare/preschool is around $100.  During the summer when I pay full time care for 2 kids I pay $900 in daycare cost ALONE.<br />
I work school hours so during the school year I only pay for the younger one to be at daycare, but even that is $480 for just 1 child to be in care while I work.  That goes a long way toward your figure of $950/month.<br />
I wish I didn&#8217;t have to work, but my job provides the health insurance and my hubby&#8217;s wont cover dependants.  So there really isnt a choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Fink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Fink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think our society has taught us to value material possessions more than personal relationships and this can translate into the decisions we make about our offspring as well. &quot;

Amen.

As a former nurse, I&#039;ve been in the room when people die.  And at the moment of death, none of your &quot;stuff&quot; matters.  Your professional achievements, the cars in the garage, the house in the Hamptons -- none of it matters.  At that moment, all that any of us have left are relationships.

I&#039;m not saying that&#039;s a reason to have a large family.  It is, however, a reason to stop and consider what really matters.

Jenny
another Mom who is raising four kids on far less than $950/mon/child</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think our society has taught us to value material possessions more than personal relationships and this can translate into the decisions we make about our offspring as well. &#8221;</p>
<p>Amen.</p>
<p>As a former nurse, I&#8217;ve been in the room when people die.  And at the moment of death, none of your &#8220;stuff&#8221; matters.  Your professional achievements, the cars in the garage, the house in the Hamptons &#8212; none of it matters.  At that moment, all that any of us have left are relationships.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that&#8217;s a reason to have a large family.  It is, however, a reason to stop and consider what really matters.</p>
<p>Jenny<br />
another Mom who is raising four kids on far less than $950/mon/child</p>
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